ArticlesBlog A Defense of Overthinking Pop Culture October 26, 201949 Related posts: Does Pop Culture Need To Be “Popular”? | Idea Channel | PBS Digital Studios POP CULTURE: What Is Cinema For? What is Pop Art? Art Movements & Styles Can an Artificial Intelligence Create Art? Related tags : alien costica bradatan critical theory finale gilles deleuze jordan erica webber mass effect mike rugnetta overthinking pbs digital studios pbsdigitalstudios pbsds pbsideachannel Philosophy pop culture popular culture stephen mulhall stuart hall theory Post navigation Previous Article How the composer of Deadpool and Mad Max scores movies Next Article Freestyle Rapper Harry Mack Performs Comments (49) August 28, 2017 at 2:41 pm Overthinking Overwatch over eggs over easy. Reply August 28, 2017 at 6:59 pm To me it seems that pop culture always has values and philosophical ideas in it, usually unintentional on the producer's part, because the producer is simply regurgitating what they know and are familiar with. As an example, Peter Gabriel's music is often artistic and thought-provoking, because Peter tries to make thoughtful music. Phil Collins' music, on the other hand, is probably more representative of "the masses", because he is not trying to make high-concept, artistic music. Peter's already put a lot of thought into his music; it's Phil's music that cries out for overthinking. Reply August 28, 2017 at 7:26 pm To prevent and cure cancer it has been recommended to eat a balanced natural plants based diet. Salut! Keyword: superfoods Human is a symbiotic organism. Reply August 28, 2017 at 9:34 pm No snacks at the opera? I guess they don't know about those delicious cinnamon-roasted nuts they sell in paper cones Reply August 29, 2017 at 4:40 am Won't the last episode of idea channel technically be a comment response video? Reply August 29, 2017 at 10:04 am I like your pod cast, you should slow down your speaking. It is sometimes difficult to understand all your words. You are highly intelligent and I feel each and every word is important. I will be on the look out for more of your work. Reply August 29, 2017 at 2:08 pm The picture at 0:48 is amazing btw. I also concur with the conclusion of this video that thinking is important. Reply August 30, 2017 at 1:35 am heheh Corey Seager sighting Reply August 30, 2017 at 3:22 am I agree with your point but you got a little dramatic there. Reply August 30, 2017 at 6:55 pm … there are no snacks! Reply August 31, 2017 at 1:25 am Mike,Great job with Idea Channel. I look forward to see what you do next.Rob Reply August 31, 2017 at 6:38 am Does anyone know what anime is shown in the gif at 1:57 ? Reply August 31, 2017 at 7:44 pm Beautiful tearful Reply August 31, 2017 at 9:27 pm I love how people here don't have to be sociologists to simply discussing things like 'culture' in good detail. Reply August 31, 2017 at 9:35 pm "The Aesthete" by Alan LaCerra The aesthete knows far too much about aesthetics. His eight-month-old niece yells, “Dadadadadadada,”and smiles toothlessly. His response? A lecture on L.H.O.O.Q.“They chose ‘Dada’ because it is a nonsense word,”he tells the baby’s father, who agrees.If she’d said “Mama,” the conversation would have turnedto Lady GaGa’s “Poker Face,” which opens mumbling.High. Low. Cultural studies studies all cultures. But the aesthete’s a deconstructionist at heart.When his first-years argue about the literary “cannon,”inserting an extra “n” between the vowels,and put up authors to be “fired” from it, circus-style,he says, “Save the puns for our deconstruction discussionon Robert Browning’s ‘Meeting at Night.’”It’s only fair. He’s been saving his: “What kind of meeting can occurthrough the pane of a closed window?The unkindness of pain.Hearts may sync their sounds,but sinking hearts sound sadwhen no entrance emerges.Where is the door, where the opening?The end disenables the deed.The poem has no meeting at nightunless ill met by moonlight.” He watches science fiction and fantasy fare(calling it “animationist” to exclude cartoonsmerely because they are cartoons)and wonders how each episode can boast the fullest moon. Possibility One: The episodes occur on the same night.Possibility Two: The episodes occur approximately thirty days apart.Possibility Three: The writers are stupid or lazy. As a writer, the aesthete tells himself his words are art.If only he could get the world to realize this as axiomatic.But axioms belong on math-class chalkboards,where the history of Arabic numerals is erasedfrom side to side, from beginning to end,for that which embodies pure functioncan have nothing beauteous in its form. Outside, the moon’s a waxing gibbous.Inside, the baby’s crying. Reply August 31, 2017 at 11:18 pm Thank you. I'm accused of over-thinking all the time! Reply September 1, 2017 at 1:12 am To some extent you can argue that 'overthinking' can be a bad thing if it distracts you from the rest of your life and limits your ability to reach your own personal goals. For example, as a society, we wouldn't want doctors who were tired for surgery because they were up late fanatically analysing a new season of the walking dead for its cultural implications the night before. I think there's also an element of diminishing returns on a personal level – as we move through the education system and mature, we should aim to get a grasp on some major themes to society, politics, economics and culture (pop or not). But once we've done this, we can internalise some of that knowledge, continue to use those skills as new developments/interests arise and move on. With a system as complex as all of human collective consciousness, we'll never find that one 'key' to understanding, even if there are many routes we can go down to understand more. And as an individual, no matter how 'enlightened' we are, there will always be limits placed on us by society that we cannot ourselves change to any great extent. We have to accept that and remember to focus on the aspects of society we can do well in for the well being of ourselves and those around us. There is, of course, a lot of subjectivity in what exactly 'overthinking' would look like, or what the most important things to have thought critically about are, but we should recognise that overthinking does at least have the potential to be a bad thing. Reply September 1, 2017 at 6:33 am I agree with the conclusion, although I think many of your arguments for it are spurious. Reply September 1, 2017 at 4:15 pm When you mentioned opera being snobby and boring to a lot of people, I thought of how those people should really check out some Gilbert and Sullivan. I think the heavy comedic aspects make it more accessible. Reply September 1, 2017 at 7:18 pm @12:34 OG monty python ministry of silly walks Reply September 1, 2017 at 11:22 pm I edit sales copy, and I think emoji should be included in quotes, but that emoji should be both singular and plural. Ie, one emoji two emoji. But that's just me. I'd definitely follow the style guide set out by the senior editors wherever I happened to be at the time. Reply September 2, 2017 at 8:11 am someone give this man the "communicator prize", please Reply September 2, 2017 at 2:07 pm I am a fan of overthinking. But I have never thought about it. Did that make sense? I mean that while I am aware that it is happening, I never stop to think about why it's happening 🤔. Reply September 2, 2017 at 10:11 pm I only subscribed last week Reply September 3, 2017 at 2:21 pm Is there somewhere I can find the music used in this episode? Its so good 😮 Reply September 3, 2017 at 3:56 pm I know this is kinda a sidestepp of the whole conversation, but WHERE IS THAT GIF AT 13:14 TAKEN FROM THAT LOOKS A BIT TOO MUCH LIKE IRON GIANT 2 TO ME (I need to know where it came from, cause i LOOooooooOOOve iron giant game) Reply September 4, 2017 at 3:16 pm Ok, you've convinced me, I'll watch your channel. Oh wait… Reply September 20, 2017 at 11:12 pm Damn I literally just heard of PBS Idea Channel today 9/20/17.. I hope your video stay up I want to check them out. Reply September 21, 2017 at 12:12 am Over thinking, also known as critical thinking. Consume, comprehend, interpret, understand. Reply September 28, 2017 at 5:43 am Thank you, Idea Channel, for teaching me the proper way to pronounce "GIF" and "meme". Reply October 1, 2017 at 1:03 pm Is your benchtop not level? Or is the camera tilted? Reply October 22, 2017 at 6:26 pm Shit haven't been on this channel in many months, can't believe it's shit down or that it never reached over a million subs. I just hope you helped some people explore new ways of thought or at least more open to critical thinking Reply October 28, 2017 at 12:48 pm High and low culture and the ideas from them seem to be hierarchical not simply because of arbitrary distinction. High tends to be where the ideas COME from (John Locke, Adam Smith, Rousseau…) and the low makes derivatives of those ideas. In the case of 1789 France the popular culture took hold of PART of the ideas that came from the high and were motivated to action (not to say that that was only cause of revolution, just a part). Low Culture is low because it takes far less thought and reason. Its consumed like a "snack" because its easy, and because of this it tends to miss the heart of the ideas generated by the High. Reply December 4, 2017 at 2:09 pm If you don't already do over voice for Tv commercials then you should. You talk very fast. Fast enough to name all the bad side effects of a drug before anyone HEARS it😊 Reply February 19, 2018 at 9:09 am For the record, HMS Pinafore is brilliant. Reply May 18, 2018 at 7:10 pm Definitely interesting points. I disagreed with almost everything you said, except the last point about analyzing everything. Beautiful channel, beautiful person, and beautiful work. Farewell Reply August 8, 2018 at 2:23 am I'm overthinking about this video. Reply September 3, 2018 at 1:05 am Eletric Didac Reply October 8, 2018 at 5:44 pm Could someone tell me what his laptop sticker means? Reply October 17, 2018 at 6:12 am Speaking of proper you're saying those terms improperly and it's annoying. Reply October 17, 2018 at 6:21 am Who's we? Is that the royal we? I have heard the word hegemony so much in my pop culture class it makes want puke. Reply November 19, 2018 at 7:28 pm MAY MAYS Reply December 1, 2018 at 9:47 pm Just found this channel and I don't get everything from the first shot and I LOVE it. That is how I talk in real life. Reply February 2, 2019 at 4:55 pm Overthinking is fine if there is something there to think about. But most people overthink by seeing something there that isn't (much like the critic who sees Picasso in a painting made by a chimp) in which case it is mental masturbation. There are better uses of one's mind than to spend it finding sociopolitical mysteries in a photograph of a bowl of soup. I find people who do this more like Philip Glass (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAh9oLs67Cw) than Daniel Dennett. Most of these armchair YouTube philosophers find themselves genius intellectuals with some clever insight to some mundane piece of media but sometimes they don't see the forest for the trees, and they tend to elevate some tripe like a Yorgos Lanthimos film to that of Stanley Kubrick or David Lynch. Reply February 27, 2019 at 8:19 am Some of us don't stop thinking. You must not be that smart. Reply May 15, 2019 at 10:23 am Amazing. Jiefs. Reply July 2, 2019 at 2:58 pm Am I an idiot? Reply August 22, 2019 at 2:07 pm To critique pop culture does not mean to be elitist, because pop culture is in itself elitist, as it is produced by multi-billion dollar conglomerates, literally the elite itself. We must end the myth that pop culture is the "culture os masses", and the argument of the video reproduces this common sense. Reply September 3, 2019 at 3:11 am Too much philosophy brings us nowhere.Its just the matter of percepcion.To me the best approach is more like zen,dont get attached to anything especialy the meaning you give to media because its not the real meaning of the things.Your brain can be so much in wrong while having this theories and ideas and wrongly shaped percepcion of oneself,not enyoing the moments fully.Im much more into facts because i choose that way since philosophy leads me to depression,activates my brain in the ways i dont want my neurons to be fired that way.Our brain actualy doesnt know whats real from what we imagine and stories we tell ourselves.Edit : Somehow i feel like i have the phase when im obssesed with learning and being in my comfort zone,but after changing my beliefs i can swap my reality realy fast and easy.This is why i choose not to overthink,not to take too much information which can be misleading and it can be escapist habit.Its the state of a mind. 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